73% more convenient than regular oil paint!

There are sev­eral types of paint that are designed to be like oil paint, only less bother. All of them han­dle approx­i­mately like oil paint, and paint­ings made with them look pretty much like oil paint­ings. They include:

Alkyds: These are paints made with a syn­thetic resin instead of a nat­ural dry­ing oil. The chief advan­tage to alkyds is that they dry overnight, and all col­ors dry at the same rate. The big dis­ad­van­tage is that (to me) they smell awful. The han­dling is also infe­rior to the han­dling of high qual­ity oil paint. Paint­ings done in alkyds should be labeled as alkyd paint­ings, not oil paintings.

There are also alkyd medi­ums, such as Liquin, Galkyd, and Neo-Meglip, intended to be mixed with reg­u­lar oil paints. That’s not what I’m talk­ing about here.

Water mis­ci­ble oil paints: These are oil paints made with a form of lin­seed oil that has been mod­i­fied so that, when water is mixed in, it doesn’t sep­a­rate. It is there­fore pos­si­ble to clean brushes in water rather than sol­vents, clean your palette with water, and so on. It is also pos­si­ble to thin the paint with water, although man­u­fac­tur­ers usu­ally rec­om­mend against adding a whole lot of water. When mixed with water, the paint forms an emul­sion (tiny droplets of water sur­rounded by oil), so the refrac­tion index of the paint changes. That means that there is a notice­able shift in value; dark col­ors become a bit lighter. The paint returns to its nor­mal value when the water evap­o­rates away, mak­ing it dif­fi­cult to judge val­ues when paint­ing (acrylic paint—another sort of emulsion—has the same prob­lem). They take about as long to dry (oxi­dize) as reg­u­lar oil paints. Water mis­ci­ble oil paint can also be thinned with reg­u­lar sol­vents, and man­u­fac­tur­ers pro­duce var­i­ous medi­ums. They can even be mixed with reg­u­lar oil paints, although no water should be added to such a mix­ture. Oil painters who try water mis­ci­ble oils often find them to be kind of “sticky.” Because each for­mu­la­tion is dif­fer­ent, it can be a bad idea to mix paints from dif­fer­ent brands. The big advan­tage to water mis­ci­ble paint is that cleanup is eas­ier and, well, cleanup is eas­ier. Because the oil is real oil, I don’t con­sider it uneth­i­cal to label a paint­ing made with water mis­ci­ble oil paint as an “oil paint­ing.” So you don’t have to try to edu­cate buy­ers about a medium they’ve never heard of. Over­all, though, I think water mis­ci­ble paint is a solu­tion in search of a problem.

Many peo­ple on inter­net art forums mis­tak­enly refer to water mis­ci­ble oil paint as “water sol­u­ble” oil paint: that’s not tech­ni­cally cor­rect, any more than there is such a thing as water sol­u­ble olive oil. Many peo­ple who use the terms “water sol­u­ble” and “water mis­ci­ble” as if they mean the same thing mis­spell “sol­u­ble” as “solu­able.” I hate that in the depths of my pedan­tic lit­tle soul. Remem­ber: “sol­u­ble” does not have an “a” in it.

Heat set “oil paints:” This is a line of paints mar­keted by one com­pany: Gen­e­sis Artist Col­ors. I have not tried them. These are not actu­ally oil paints, although the com­pany describes them as “heat set artist oils” on their web site. The paints are instead ground in some sort of syn­thetic poly­mer that behaves rather like oil. It does not, how­ever, dry by oxi­da­tion, the way oil paints do. In fact, it doesn’t ever dry until you heat it to a high tem­per­a­ture, at which point it sets per­ma­nently. So you can leave paint on your brushes as long as you want. You don’t ever have to clean your palette or brushes—the paint stays wet for­ever. When you want a paint­ing to be dry, you use a spe­cial heat gun (sold by the Gen­e­sis com­pany) or a spe­cial dry­ing oven (sold by the Gen­e­sis com­pany). You can use a reg­u­lar oven, but even­tu­ally, of course, you’re going to get paint on the inside of the oven. You can’t use a hair dryer because it doesn’t get hot enough.

The big advan­tage of heat set paints is that you don’t have to worry about cleanup until you feel like it. When my son was born last week I left some oil paint on my palette: it’s now hard and will be a pain to scrape off. With heat set oils, that wouldn’t be a prob­lem. Some artists also like to noo­dle around with wet oil paint for days. Heat set paints don’t dry until you tell them to. The dis­ad­van­tage to heat set paints is that they are made by only one com­pany, and they won’t say exactly how they are made. They claim the paint is archival, but you have to take their word for it.

Another dis­ad­van­tage is that when you label one of these paint­ings, it would be a lie to say they are made with “oil paint.” I’m not sure what you should call them—“heat set paint,” maybe. I think its uneth­i­cal for the com­pany to call them “heat set artist oils,” because they are not oil paints, how­ever much the fin­ished prod­uct may look like an oil painting.

Mar­ket­ing

All of these paints are mar­keted to hob­by­ists, who like the idea of oil paint­ing, but want some­thing less incon­ve­nient. Each of them cor­rects some per­ceived flaw in oil paints: they take too long to dry, they dry when you don’t want them to, you have to clean up with smelly stuff, and so on. These kinds of “improve­ments” mostly appeal to hob­by­ists who want their hobby to be more con­ve­nient. That isn’t to say that there aren’t pro­fes­sional artists who use each of these types of paint, or that won­der­ful paint­ings aren’t made with them. But any com­pany hop­ing to make a profit sell­ing what I will call “con­ve­nience oils” has to mar­ket them to hob­by­ists. That means they have to be fairly inex­pen­sive, so the qual­ity of most of these paints is about equiv­a­lent to student-grade oil paint. In order to keep the price low enough that hob­by­ists will buy it, alter­na­tive pig­ments, cheaper grades of pig­ment, and exten­ders are used, just as with stu­dent grade oil paint. Cer­tain pig­ments that are more toxic, such as lead white and gen­uine ver­mil­lion, aren’t man­u­fac­tured in con­ve­nience lines of oil paint for the same rea­sons you don’t find such pig­ments in stu­dent grade paint: most hob­by­ist painters are afraid of toxic chem­i­cals they don’t under­stand. It would be pos­si­ble for com­pa­nies to man­u­fac­ture con­ve­nience oils with very high stan­dards of qual­ity, but that would be a bad busi­ness deci­sion. (I am told that the water mis­ci­ble paint made by Hol­bein is of fairly high qual­ity, but I pre­fer not to use a type of paint made by only one company).

For that rea­son, I won’t use them. I like hav­ing access to the best grades of artist-quality oil paint. I like being able to use a wide range of tra­di­tional medi­ums that I can mix myself. I like hav­ing access to tra­di­tional pig­ments that have valu­able prop­er­ties but require par­tic­u­lar care with regard to safety. And I like being part of a tra­di­tion of paint­ing that goes back to the early Renais­sance. While real oil paints can be incon­ve­nient, none of the alter­na­tives that have been devel­oped are, to me, worth giv­ing up the real thing.

Update 1:

I’d like to note that water mis­ci­ble oil paint can be use­ful if you want to travel by air with a set of oil paints. Because they are eas­ier to use with­out sol­vents (which they won’t let you travel with) water mis­ci­bles can be an alter­na­tive that is rel­a­tively hassle-free. If I were to do that, I would def­i­nitely buy the Hol­bein Duo Aqua oils, which I have heard good things about.

Update 2:

One other char­ac­ter­is­tic of alkyd paints that I for­got to men­tion is this: alkyds need more binder to a given amount of pig­ment than oil paints do. That means paint man­u­fac­tur­ers can’t use as much pig­ment when mak­ing alkyd paints, so some col­ors don’t have the sat­u­ra­tion and inten­sity of their oil equiv­a­lents. That’s not a fail­ure on the part of man­u­fac­tur­ers, but a char­ac­ter­is­tic of the alkyd medium.

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  1. David’s avatar

    David,

    Thanks for leav­ing such a long and thought­ful comment.

    Gam­blin makes oil paints, as well as alkyd medi­ums for mix­ing with oil paints. That’s not what I was refer­ring to when I was talk­ing about alkyd paints, which are pig­ment mixed with an alkyd bind­ing vehi­cle. I don’t think that alkyd paints should be labeled as oil paints. Gamblin’s oils, even when used with alkyd medium, should of course be labeled as oils.

    I can see your point about mak­ing emul­sions with water-miscible oil paint; that hadn’t occurred to me. And I have no prob­lem with the use of any paint mar­keted to hob­by­ists; I just think it’s use­ful to under­stand the art mate­ri­als mar­ket and how it affects the eco­nom­ics of how those mate­ri­als are made.

    As to the use of water-miscible paints by peo­ple with sen­si­tiv­i­ties to turps, I can under­stand that. If I had that level of sen­si­tiv­ity, I would per­son­ally just stop using turps and switch to a solvent-free paint­ing process, rather than buy­ing a new set of paints.

    I don’t know enough about the chem­istry of deter­gents to say whether their use in the man­u­fac­ture of water mis­ci­ble paints would affect their longevity. I tend to be fairly con­ser­v­a­tive with these things, and I do think that water mis­ci­bles have not been around long enough to have demon­strated that they are suit­able for paint­ings that are intended to be per­ma­nent, espe­cially since every man­u­fac­turer seems to use a dif­fer­ent formula.

    Thanks again.

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  2. David Clemons’s avatar

    David, I wanted to add some per­sonal obser­va­tions about your arti­cle on “con­ve­nience” oils. I have no feed­back (or inter­est) in the heat-set, have a point about alkyds, and I do use water-miscible oils often.

    If I under­stand your point about alkyd paints cor­rectly, you’re say­ing they only con­tain an alkyd resin and no oil; there­fore, they should not be called oil paints. The one brand of alkyds I know of is Win­sor & Newton’s Grif­fin, which they say is made from a nat­u­rally derived veg­etable oil poly­mer­ized with alkyd. Gam­blin makes alkyd medi­ums, but their paint they say is from “finest alkali refined lin­seed oil.” They also have a “quick dry white” that’s “oil mod­i­fied alkyd resin.” So, there is oil in them; it’s just a mod­i­fied oil, but that would still make it oil paint. From past expe­ri­ence, I can say the Grif­fin paint qual­ity is poor, but Gamblin’s is good. There are reports of delam­i­na­tion in alkyd prod­ucts that worry me, so I avoid them. Speed of dry­ing is not a con­cern for me.

    Re: water-misibles, I use them often for mix­ing with water-based emul­sions, such as methyl-cellulose. I find that hav­ing an oil which is already mod­i­fied to work with water makes this process of paint­ing much eas­ier than using reg­u­lar oils; although, I do use those as well to expand my color and qual­ity of paint choices. As far as being mar­keted to “hob­by­ist,” that point is irrel­e­vant to me. If the paint han­dles well and is of good qual­ity, that’s the only issue. The con­ve­nience of clean­ing with water is a bonus, but is of no major con­se­quence. It would be like pre­fer­ring fast-food because there’s no dishes to wash; it’s the food not the pack­ag­ing that’s impor­tant. Also as you know, there are ways to limit or avoid using tur­pen­tine or OMS with reg­u­lar oil use or clean-up, and that point should be made.

    There’s another point about tur­pen­tine use you don’t men­tion, and that’s the aller­gic reac­tion many peo­ple have when using it, which makes the water-miscibles a good option for them.

    As for the word “sol­u­ble,” I see your point. I often use the term when speak­ing to oth­ers who use it just so they know what I’m talk­ing about. Water is not a sol­vent in this case, but then turp or OMS isn’t either; it’s a diluent.

    One last thing, some con­cern about water-miscible oils is the use of a deter­gent agent in them to make them mix with water, and how that could adversely affect their longevity. To the best of my research on this, that sur­fac­tant used is 2-Butoxyethanol, which is listed in the MSDS of W&N Arti­san medi­ums. This is also used in latex paints, laquers, and var­nishes com­mer­cially, as well as soaps and cos­met­ics. As to whether the other man­u­fac­tur­ers like Grum­bacher use that, I can’t say (and they won’t.) Only time will prove how it may or may not affect the paint.

    I’ve fol­lowed your com­ments on other forums and respect your opin­ions. They always seemed well researched and thor­ough. I just wanted to add my own per­spec­tives here.
    DBC

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  3. Jerry Monks’s avatar

    In regards to oil paint­ing an dus­ing any sol­vent with Ben­zyne in it– stop imme­di­ately. I have lost three friends, pros who painted at least 510 hours 56 days a week, to acute luekemia the cause being their sol­vents that they either enhaled, or exposed their skin to.
    Best to use no sol­vent, or at least a sol­vent w/o ben­zyne. All turps, most turp sub­sti­tutes include a ben­zyne com­po­nent.
    Regards– J.Monks

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  4. David’s avatar

    Thanks Jerry.

    I know that some pros have been in the habit of sit­ting for hours with open con­tain­ers of turps and medium. That’s a really, really bad idea. You can still buy those open medium cups for attach­ing to your palette (how are you sup­posed to keep from spilling the stuff?).

    I use turps (some­times), but with good ven­ti­la­tion and with the con­tainer kept closed when I am not actu­ally using it. My expo­sure is thereby three or four orders of mag­ni­tude less than if I just sat with an open con­tainer for hours at a time.

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  5. Giles Prodwit’s avatar

    I am aller­gic to the fumes/smell of oil paints them­selves and tur­pen­tine. I have heard that they cause Non-Hodgkin’s lym­phoma , so I have switched to acrylics and watercolor.

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  6. David’s avatar

    Giles,

    Your state­ment about lym­phoma is new to me. If you are that sen­si­tive to sol­vents and dry­ing oils, then the switch is prob­a­bly wise, although you should be aware that acrylics can also give off fumes that some peo­ple are sen­si­tive to.

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  7. Louis R. Velasquez’s avatar

    Hi David, and hello Mr. Prod­wit,
    Very inter­est­ing com­ment by Mr. Prod­wit. Oil paint­ing is a won­der­ful medium and artists who love it should not be pro­hib­ited from using it because of health rea­sons. There are many art mate­ri­als that are haz­ardous to our health..just as they are also haz­ardous to the health of the paint­ing itself.

    To your read­ers, David, who have not read my recent posts, I am the author of a self-published book, “Oil Paint­ing with “Cal­cite Sun Oil”: Safety and Per­ma­nence with­out Haz­ardous Sol­vents, Resins, Var­nishes and Dri­ers”, avail­able at my web­site. The infor­ma­tion in the book regard­ing oil, and emul­sions, and cal­cium car­bon­ate … is based on the dis­cov­er­ies by sci­en­tists in the 1990’s who ana­lyzed the paint­ings of Velazquez, Rem­brandt, the Van eycks, and others.

    Since writ­ing the book, …com­bin­ing the recent sci­en­tific knowl­edge and on my own exper­i­ments and expierice as a painter, .. I have deter­mined that per­sons like Mr. Prod­wit, could use a method (choice of mate­ri­als, exclud­ing oth­ers) that is SAFE, per­ma­nent and so very sim­ple. And, it allows the fol­low­ing: Easy blending…micro-fine details…extreme textures…transparent glazes ..scum­bling… fast dry­ing of thin paint film within 30 hours/which can eas­ily be extended if desired….and as needed, a thixotropic qual­ity allow­ing super­im­poi­si­tion of wet on top of wet.

    Im not sure if Mr. Prod­wit is say­ing he is aller­gic to the vapors of the paint’ itself, mean­ing oil and pow­der as it comes from the tube. Or, if its the paint once mixed with all the paint­ing medi­ums made of mix­tures of sol­vents, resins, var­nishes and dri­ers, which artists need to mix with the tube paint to make it behave.

    If the paint itself is not a cul­prit, then my meth­ods can allow him to oil paint safely. Of course, one must read the entire label of the tube paints and buy only those that are non-toxic. My book only claims safety of lin­seed oil, cal­cium car­bon­ate and egg glair. If a per­son is aller­gic to any of these three items, then, I can­not help with the issue of safety.

    sincerely..Louis R. Velasquez , http://​www​.cal​cite​sunoil​.com

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  8. Martin’s avatar

    Water mis­ci­ble oil paints is easy to make. At least if you live in Swe­den where a kind of soft soap made from veg­etable oil (usu­ally pine tree oil) is used as a tra­di­tion­all all pur­pose clean­ing agent. You sim­ply mix a small amount with your ordi­nary oil paint and you get a faster dry­ing water sol­u­ble paint. It has been in use for hun­dreds of years and this paint is said to be more resis­tant to aging then pure oil paint.

    I haven’t been able to find an eng­lish word for this kind of soap. In Swe­den it’s called “sÃ¥pa” and there are two vari­aties: green (soap made from pine used to get this colour, but nowa­days it’s arti­fi­cially coloured) and yel­low (with­out colour agents). If your lucky you can find one thats not pine scented (nowa­days syntetic).

    Oh, and “sÃ¥pa” is unsur­passed when clean­ing your brushes. It refat­tens your nat­ural hair brushes if they got dried out from use of other sol­vents. When I paint I usu­ally have a jar with “sÃ¥pa” and water, where I put my unclean brushes when not in use, to keep the paint from dry­ing. When I need to get them clean I use undi­luted “sÃ¥pa”. If the paint in your brush gets dry you have to use some other solvent,

    And it’s really cheap, near odour­less, non aller­gic and non poi­so­nous (it has been used as a lax­a­tive, but then you have drink a lot of it).

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    1. agnes’s avatar

      Hi Mar­tin,

      could you give a sim­ple rough “recipe” on how to mix nat­ural soft soap — per­haps other veg­etable derived soft soaps behave the same, would be worth exper­i­ment­ing? For exam­ple do you mix the soap with oil paint in a 1:1 ratio? Also as a medium do you use water or soap? Again, in what ratio to the oil paint? I am just com­plet­ing a FA degree and am tired of using sol­vents but love oil paint. I am a bio­chemist and phys­i­ol­o­gist orig­i­nally and aware of how dan­ger­ous organic sol­vents can be.
      Sure, you can be care­ful, but I’d rather not have to worry about it.

      Thanks,

      Agnes

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      1. davidrourke’s avatar

        Agnes,

        My name is David, actu­ally. Not sure what you are ask­ing about, as I don’t sug­gest adding soap to paint. If you search on this site, you can find infor­ma­tion on oil paint­ing with­out solvents.

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  9. David’s avatar

    Mar­tin,

    I don’t know if soap like this is avail­able in the U.S.; I have def­i­nitely never heard of it being used for hun­dreds of years as an oil paint additive.

    Inter­est­ing. Thanks.

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  10. Martin’s avatar

    I know it’s avail­able all around the globe. It seems that in other coun­tries peo­ple dont make a dis­tinc­tion between “tvÃ¥l” and “sÃ¥pa”, which has dif­fer­ent chem­i­cal properties.

    This kind of soap is a biprod­uct of indus­trial pulp­wood man­u­fac­tur­ing and has been cheaply avail­able in Swe­den for almost two decades. Before that the paint was made by pig­ment being ground in oil (usu­ally lin­seed oil) saponi­fied with pot ash or unprocessed ash from soft­wood (usu­aly from birch wood, dif­fer­ent source of (pot) ash give dif­fer­ent result), other sub­stances (like chalk, urine, egg, beer and milk) was added depend­ing on what pig­ments in use and pur­pose of the paint. Sim­i­lar meth­ods is used to pro­duce prod­ucts like W&N Arti­san Oil Color today. But adding soap to ordi­nary oil paint gives bet­ter con­trol, more avi­l­able pig­ments, is cheaper and you usu­ally get bet­ter durability.

    Sim­i­lar paint has been used in folk art in most wood­land coun­tries. But because of high lit­er­acy among com­mon peo­ple, com­pared to other coun­tries, a lot of old Swedish recipes have been writ­ten down dur­ing history.

    I must con­fess I rather use egg as emul­si­fier. Egg yolk can be mixed directly into pre­fab oil paint to make a sim­ple water sol­u­ble ue-tempera to use in leaner lay­ers of an oil paint­ing. But you get a slightly yel­low shade to your wet paint that dis­ap­pear after drying.

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  11. Joan’s avatar

    I just dis­cov­ered your web­site by acci­dent. What a gem!
    I’m a paint­ing hob­by­ist …”artist wannna-be” and use Hol­bein aqua-oil (water-miscible oil)

    My ques­tion is about glaz­ing.
    If I’ve done an under­paint­ing and have then built up my paint­ing from that…but want to glaze a part of the paint­ing (pos­si­bly to push it back or add warm to a cooler area, or for what­ever rea­son) …how do I make a glaze to do this, using this medium.

    Am I just dilut­ing colour in medium or water and apply­ing thinly..or doing some­thing else?

    I can’t seem to find direc­tion on this ques­tion. Any help appreciated!

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    1. David’s avatar

      @Joan -
      Joan,

      Glaz­ing is not about medium, it’s about mak­ing the paint layer thin enough to inter­act opti­cally with the layer below. Here’s a post on glazing.

      Good luck.

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  12. Stephen Hobbs’s avatar

    @David Clemons — I have actu­ally dis­cov­ered I am quite aller­gic to oil based paints, wether it’s the alka­loids, or turps I am not sure. For many years I even worked as a painter/decorator but it wasn’t until one night I awoke after falling asleep after clean­ing an oil can­vas with some turps I found the true extent. It has always made me feel slightly hyper-active (under­stand­ably). But I’d left a turps cov­ered rag in the room. I soon found myself awak­ing to a sim­i­lar expe­ri­ence to a panic attack. Heart rac­ing and a blood pres­sure of 160/95 and a pulse of 98 felt like a damn heart attack. I went down­stairs, stood out­side and had a cig­a­rette and a cof­fee which helped bring my prob­lem under con­trol then returned to room and found the offend­ing article.

    I have since removed all my oil paints and thin­ner con­tain­ers from the house and had no fur­ther problems.

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  13. David’s avatar

    Stephen,

    From your descrip­tion, it sounds like you may have a sen­si­tiv­ity to aro­matic sol­vents such as spir­its of tur­pen­tine, not oil paints themselves.

    Here’s a post on oil paint­ing with­out solvents:

    http://​rourke​vi​su​alart​.com/​w​o​r​d​p​r​e​s​s​/​2006​/​12​/​29​/​o​i​l​-​p​a​i​n​t​i​n​g​-​w​i​t​h​o​u​t​-​s​o​l​v​e​n​ts/

    You might want to give it a try.

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  14. Roderick’s avatar

    @Martin

    Der Mar­tin

    Could you con­firm that you can take artists oils and mix them directly with egg ( i assume this would be wiyth the yolk)

    Thnak you Roderick

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  15. Koren’s avatar

    One thing bears say­ing here — sol­vents aren’t just ‘smelly’ or ‘incon­ve­nient’ — in vir­tu­ally all cases, they’re also toxic (I’m a chem­i­cal engi­neer, this hap­pens to be my field.) I know this is why I was orig­i­nally inter­sted in water-soluble oils. Tur­pen­tine has a health rat­ing of ‘3’, which in com­mon usage means ‘not good’. Since many painters are hob­by­ists or work from home, they don’t nec­es­sar­ily have spe­cial exhaust sys­tems set up to evac­u­ate harm­ful fumes. Every painter who works with sol­vents should at a min­i­mum search the web for the MSDS of the chem­i­cal that they use, and be sure that they’re com­ply­ing with the rec­om­mended han­dling prac­tices. Same goes for toxic pig­ments. Per­son­ally, I would not use any paint with sig­nif­i­cant lead con­tent, or even allow it near my home. But if you do use lead, cad­mium, bar­ium, cobalt, or man­ganese pig­ments vir­tu­ally all of them are clas­si­fied as ‘haz­ardous waste’ in the U.S., which means that even small amounts shouldn’t be dis­posed of in the trash or down the drain. Waste water treat­ment facil­i­ties aren’t set up to deal with that type of con­t­a­m­i­na­tion. Hope­fully most artists know these things, but I’ve come across sev­eral who don’t, and it’s easy to assume that because a prod­uct is sold for hob­by­ist use that it’s com­pletely harm­less. Nobody needs to poi­son them­selves or cre­ate a mini-Superfund site with their hobby. ‘Nuff said.

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  16. Mel’s avatar

    In ref­er­ence to your topic of Gen­e­sis Heat Set Artists Oils, I have used them for about 3 years and absolutely love them! They make the issue of tox­i­c­ity non-existant, there­fore I don’t even think about it, as I did before when using tra­di­tional oils and medi­ums. They are far more con­ve­nient and do not require as much atten­tion as tra­di­tional oils. I have used them in the stu­dio and plein air. I dry them with my heat gun or put them in my oven and in 10 min­uets, I’m ready to paint some more. What would take sev­eral weeks to prod­uct in oil, I can do in a day. There is no down­side. You can do exactly the same things with heat set oils as you can with tra­di­tional oils. If aller­gies are an issue, they are definitly worth a try, as they are com­pletely cer­ti­fied as non-toxic. There are no issues with this paint. It is the future. They are cer­ti­fied offi­cially “oil paint” and are the best qual­ity of archival mate­r­ial. Do your research and see what you come up with. It’s not just for “hob­by­ist” or “crafters”. It’s the “big boy” stuff and you will know it in the future. I highly rec­om­mend it.

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  17. David’s avatar

    @Mel

    Mel,

    I’ll stick with paints made of mate­ri­als I under­stand. Oil paints can­not pos­si­bly be more toxic than heat set paints. Good luck with your choice.

    If you sell your paint­ings, how are they labeled? Do you say the medium is “Gen­e­sis Heat Set Oil Paint” or what?

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  18. Dana’s avatar

    I’m an artist and have devel­oped a highly sen­si­tive allergy to acrylics over the years. I’ve had to force myself to find a way to work in mixed media using the most harm­less mate­ri­als like col­ored pen­cils, water col­ors, torn paper and the like. I man­aged to find my style again but I would strongly rec­om­mend to any artist work­ing with a poten­tially toxic mate­r­ial to take some sim­ple pre­cau­tions and avoid over­ex­po­sure (pre­ven­tion is key). I know it’s a pain — which is of course why I never did it — but just think of me and maybe you’ll crack open a win­dow or two. :)

    Side note to Koren: I would be very inter­ested to hear if — as a chem­i­cal engi­neer — you know of any com­mon mate­r­ial among the fol­low­ing prod­ucts: stick oil pas­tels, kid face­paint (the cheap-o kind they sell for Hal­loween as a 6 pack of col­ors) and even cer­tain brands of lip­stick. Occa­sion­ally I have the same slightly nau­seous reac­tion to all of these (and only these) mate­ri­als. There has to be a com­mon ground. But I’m com­pletely mystified.

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  19. David’s avatar

    @Dana

    Dana,

    You seem to be one of those peo­ple with a sen­si­tiv­ity to many volatiles. It may not be any sin­gle sub­stance. That’s a tough prob­lem for a visual artist. If I had this prob­lem, I’d prob­a­bly focus on egg tempera.

    Good luck.

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  20. Dana’s avatar

    Yeah you’re prob­a­bly right. Would be nice to nar­row it down to a sin­gle cul­prit though. I will def­i­nitely look into egg tem­pera. Thanks for the tip.

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