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Miles Mathis

is a cur­mud­geon, and I mean that in a good way. He’s a mod­ern real­ist painter who does mostly paint­ings of women and girls, some nude, some not. I like some of his stuff and find some of it rather sac­cha­rine, but then he’s a sell­ing artist and I’m cur­rently just a wannabe.

At his web site, he has a num­ber of essays that express strong, inde­pen­dent opin­ions about art and cul­ture. He writes well and with great con­vic­tion. I cer­tainly don’t agree with every­thing he says, but I find it very worth­while to check his site from time to time and see if he’s writ­ten any­thing new. What he writes is almost always worth read­ing and think­ing about. He recently posted a short essay on his paint­ing mate­ri­als and tech­niques. He’s a tra­di­tion­al­ist and—not surprisingly—he’s cranky about how most other artists are lazy with choos­ing their meth­ods and mate­ri­als. He paints on linen and primes it him­self with lead white. He uses mostly an earth palette and believes strongly that those are the col­ors that can best be used to rep­re­sent flesh (I often use earths for flesh tones also). He uses a home made dammar final varnish.

Many buy­ers have said that my paint­ings have the same sort of paint that old paint­ings seem to have, whereas con­tem­po­rary paint­ings, even when they are very good, don’t. There is a very sim­ple rea­son for that. I work dif­fer­ently than most mod­ern painters, and that dif­fer­ence starts with my can­vas. In my opin­ion almost all mod­ern mate­ri­als are garbage, pure and sim­ple. They were cre­ated for speed and con­ve­nience and price and safety, not for qual­ity. Most pro­fes­sional artists know this and will admit it, and yet most pro­fes­sional artists, even at the top of the field, use infe­rior pre-stretched canvases.

While I agree with much of what he says, I do have a cou­ple of quib­bles. I, too, like to prime with lead, but he uses a lead white paint (Old Hol­land crem­nitz white). I’d rec­om­mend an actual lead white primer (he may not be aware that those exist on the mar­ket), such as Stu­dio Product’s excel­lent white lead in black oil primer or Williamsburg’s lead oil ground. He also con­fuses organic and inor­ganic pig­ments. Earth pig­ments are not organic; they’re rocks and dirt. Many mod­ern pig­ments, such as pthalo­cya­nines, are classed as organic, since they are based on var­i­ous car­bon mol­e­cules. He does cor­rectly label the cad­mium col­ors he despises as inor­gan­ics. But the gist is clear: he prefers an old mas­ter palette (even if he doesn’t know how to describe it tech­ni­cally) from before the explo­sion of mod­ern pig­ment man­u­fac­ture in the 1800’s. Specif­i­cally, he says he likes Titian’s palette, although he doesn’t say exactly what he means by that. Tit­ian used col­ors like azu­rite and lead tin yel­low that are pretty hard to find these days (but not impos­si­ble). If you like writ­ing that is pas­sion­ate and inter­est­ing, take a look at his site.

Update 12/6/06: Miles’ web­site is at a new address, so I’ve updated these links.

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  1. painterdog says

    Titian’s palette? know one knows what Titian’s palette was.

    They mixed there own col­ors from earth pig­ments and heavy metals.

    Sorry to say this but this chap is not that good a painter.

    Gog­gle Frank Mason and you will see a real mas­ter. By the Frank uses cad­mi­ums and is 85 amd has been study­ing the old mas­ter since he was 14 years old.

    one more thing, you prime with a lead white with black oil its going to yel­low and crack.

  2. David says

    Jef­frey,

    What makes you think we don’t know what pig­ments Tit­ian used? Con­ser­va­tors take tiny sam­ples of paint­ings and sub­ject them to chem­i­cal analy­sis. The Venet­ian palette was very exten­sive com­pared to those of other artists in the Renais­sance, because Venice was a cen­ter of the inter­na­tional pig­ment trade. The palette con­sisted of a num­ber of earths, ver­mil­ion, red lead (mas­si­cot), flake white (ceruse), lead tin yel­low (gal­lorino), ultra­ma­rine, azu­rite, red lake, yel­low lake, cop­per green, smalt, and var­i­ous car­bon blacks. Unlike most of their con­tem­po­raries, Vene­tians also used arsenic-based pigments—orpiment and realgar—despite their poi­so­nous nature. Mathis’ belief that Titian’s palette con­sisted entirely of earths is com­pletely incorrect.

    They cer­tainly didn’t use cad­mi­ums, how­ever, since those pig­ments didn’t exist then. They had a bright red—vermilion. While it is sim­i­lar to some cad­mium reds in mas­stone, it doesn’t mix the way ver­mil­ion does. They didn’t have a color com­pa­ra­ble in bright­ness to cad­mium yel­low. Their bright­est opaque yellow—gallorino—is not nearly so chro­matic as cadmium.

    Miles is hardly my favorite mod­ern real­ist painter, although some of his stuff is pleas­ant. I think he’s an inter­est­ing read.

    Why do you think that lead white in black oil will crack? Lead com­pounds are very flex­i­ble, and main­tain their flex­i­bil­ity over cen­turies. Rubens used black oil exten­sively and his paint­ings are gen­er­ally in very good shape.

    By the way, I checked out your site. Your paint­ings are very good.

  3. David says

    Jef­frey,

    Thanks for the ref­er­ence to Frank Mason. His work is lively and very good. His influ­ences are clearly more from the baroque period than from Titian’s high Renais­sance work.

    I note that he is a devo­tee of Jacques Maroger. Maroger was a pro­po­nent of black oil, which you seem to think is a bad addi­tion to paint. The medium named after Maroger is a com­bi­na­tion of black oil and thick mas­tic var­nish. Is Mr. Mason wrong to sup­port Maroger’s views on paint­ing materials?

    Thanks again for com­ment­ing here.

  4. painterdog says

    What I meant is that while we have an idea due to infor­ma­tion on what col­ors the Veni­tians used we don’t have a com­plete record on Titian’s prac­tice. He was very secre­tive, as most artist in tha period were.

    The list you have included is what I have found in my reasearch.

    The pig­ments used then are so much dif­fer­ent for what we use now.

    I guess you could recre­ate a 16 cen­tury palette from a sorce such as Kreamer pig­ments but it would be pretty toxic.

    Maroger:

    I have a lot of expe­ri­ence with this stuff, have made it myself, do not rec­om­mend you do this. Very toxic.

    Frank Mason has not used Maroger in over 20 years because it turns all light col­ors darker and has a ten­dency to crack.

    He uses medi­ums from this com­pany called Alchemist Inc, not sure you know this com­pany but here is the link amber​var​nish​.com

    I have not used it but I hear great things about it and its not as toxic as Maroger.

    All my paint­ings done with Maroger have cracked.

    Lead is a dryer, so adding more dryer to it and using at as ground will pro­mote cracking.

    Also the stuff turns all whites yellow.

    Rubens used black oil exten­sively and his paint­ings are gen­er­ally in very good shape.”

    Sorry my friend he did not use Maroger, yes there was lead in his medium but it was not Maroger’s recipe, check out amber​var​nish​.com it very interesting.

  5. David says

    Jef­frey,

    Tit­ian cer­tainly did obscure his work­ing tech­niques, although mod­ern tech­ni­cal analy­sis can shed some light on what pig­ments were used, and in what order.

    I don’t think it’s that hard to re-create some­thing close to a Renais­sance palette. Flake white is still com­mon. I have a tube of lead tin yel­low and a tube of gen­uine ver­mil­lion from Robert Doak. The earth col­ors, for the most part, are still avail­able. Ultra­ma­rine is now cheap. Azu­rite is expen­sive, but pos­si­ble to get. Alizarin is sim­i­lar to red lakes. If you are care­ful, you can have a palette that is func­tion­ally quite similar.

    I don’t use a whole lot of Maroger. I don’t make it myself and I’m not too con­cerned with tox­i­c­ity when using it, as I am pretty care­ful with stu­dio tech­nique. I find that it is occa­sion­ally use­ful for a par­tic­u­lar passage.

    I’m sorry that your Maroger paint­ings have cracked. I’m curi­ous: how much of the stuff did you add to your paint? I am very care­ful to use only very small amounts of any medium. I have read that some of Maroger’s fol­low­ers had trou­ble with prob­lem paint­ings, while the paint­ings of oth­ers have sur­vived in excel­lent con­di­tion to this day. I am won­der­ing whether the dif­fer­ence is that some of them were too l iberal in their use of the stuff. I know some of them also used it as a final var­nish, which seems incor­rect to me.

    I am aware of the Alchemist medium folks. I haven’t tried their products.

    I do not think that Rubens used Maroger medium, although it is not impos­si­ble that he used some kind of gel medium (meglip). How­ever, I don’t know of any evi­dence that black oil pro­motes crack­ing. I cer­tainly don’t know of any rea­son why it would cause a lead ground to crack.

  6. painterdog says

    I think the rea­son is to much dryer. black oil also makes light col­ors darker over time.

    All of Maroger’s paint­ing have become darker. some have become so dark you can hardly see them. They look like they had been painted at night in a dark room.

    I just used it as a medium, I did not mix my col­ors with it.

    The prob­lem with Maroger medium is its not sta­ble. I have a friend who lives in Ari­zona, you can’t use it out there as its to hot. The stuff keeps get­ting soft in the sum­mer and hard­en­ing in the win­ter, pro­mot­ing crak­ing, and the paint­ings became dust magnets.

    I had the same thing hap­pen to me and I don’t live in the South West, the paint­ings cracked because of movement.

    I have also made sun oil with lead, so you get a dry­ing oil but its not dark. This worked real well.

    I still use sun thick­ended oil.

    Yeah you can sim­u­late an Titian’s palette, I use a palette that is kind of like this. Although tin lead and vermillion(if its real I think it has mer­cury in it)are two col­ors I don’t use.

    Lead white is not made the same way it was 500 hun­dered years ago, so what we have as lead white is not what Rem­brandt or Tit­ian used.

    Ultra­ma­rine, I think this was lapis lazuri which is very expen­sive, but it was in Titian’s day as well, which is why its was only used as a glaze.

    I like to mix old pal­lets with some new col­ors such as cad­mi­ums I find this is a good mix.

    I have dif­fer­ent palettes for dif­fer­ent sit­u­a­tions, such as land­scape or still life.

    I think one can get to caught up in all of this and if your not care­ful your using a lot of toxic materials.

    Which become air born some­what when you clean your brushes.

  7. painterdog says

    lead is already a dryer. so mix­ing it with more dryer could cause it to dry to fast.

    Also it will yel­low with time as black oil makes whites yellow.

  8. David says

    Jef­frey,

    I haven’t seen any evi­dence that a black oil primer would cause dry­ing that is too fast. It seems to be the case that early oil painters used oils treated with lead and other met­als, and their work is often in very good shape. Black oil/lead white primer does dry with a warm tone, which I like in a primer (not a mix­ing white).

  9. painterdog says

    Yes but they used lead white, that is a sugar of lead paste mixed with lin­seed or wal­nut oil.

    I don’t see any recepies in any of my stud­ies that use a cooked oil for a ground, I could be wrong, but I don’t remem­ber any.

    In Italy dur­ing Titian’s time dif­fer­ent regions had dif­fer­ent meth­ods for prim­ing, the Veni­tians used a oil/chalk ground. (true gesso, then lead white on top)

    The lead used from the mid 19 cen­tury on back is dif­fer­ent than what we have now. Now we have a very indus­trial processed product.

    Have you ever tried a lead oil in made in the sun?

    It takes month or more to make dries like black oil and is lighter than linseed.

  10. David says

    Jef­frey,

    No, I haven’t made sun-thickened leaded oil. At some point I will. I do have some of Doak’s sun-thickened wal­nut oil (which is very, very thick).

  11. Richard says

    David, I really enjoy read­ing All the Strange Hours, espe­cially your posts on tech­nique and on the palettes of var­i­ous painters. Have you ever heard of prob­lems mix­ing ultra­ma­rine blue with lead white? I read some­where that the sul­fur con­tent of ultra­ma­rine might react poorly with lead. Any thoughts? Thanks very much —

    • Frank miscione says

      If you do not get a reply, I can add that chem­i­cally lots of things are going on. The eas­i­est solu­tion I have is to limit the num­ber of sec­ondary reac­tions by stay­ing with like-vs-like. For exam­ple Cad red, yel­low, orange, Cobalt blue and green. Thick nasty lead paint pro­vides the forum.

      Frank Mis­cione

  12. David Rourke says

    Richard,

    I’m glad you like the blog.

    As to issues with ultra­ma­rine and lead white, it reminds me of the old say­ing that in the­ory, real­ity and the­ory are the same, but in real­ity, they are not. The­o­ret­i­cally, the sul­phur in ultra­ma­rine (and also found at trace lev­els in the air) should turn lead white black. In real­ity, that is sim­ply not known to hap­pen. Artists have been mix­ing ultra­ma­rine with lead white for many cen­turies, and I am unaware of a sin­gle case in which any defects could be attrib­uted to a reac­tion between those two pig­ments. So it’s just not some­thing to worry about, in my opinion.



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