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		<title>By: mariocorreia.com</title>
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&lt;p&gt;Mixers kitchen and bathroom have been designed for those places with a lot of responsibility in the modern home. The basic functionality of the mixers is to allow the flow of hot and cold water through the key to comfort and luxury. Choosing the best m...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: shcia.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Paint Colors for the Right Kitchen...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Think about how expensive materials, the choice of color. Mother Nature can help you with choosing the color palette. Watch the color of the stone, then on the floor of the toilet and colors for the rooms flow together. Tip: bright pink on a wall, then...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Paint Colors for the Right Kitchen…</strong></p>

<p>Think about how expensive materials, the choice of color. Mother Nature can help you with choosing the color palette. Watch the color of the stone, then on the floor of the toilet and colors for the rooms flow together. Tip: bright pink on a wall, then…</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: painterdog</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello Anna,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I use the palette I stated above. I think you want a balance of warm colors(reds, yellows),and cool(blues, madder lake, cool red) If you want a more earth based palette you could use the Mars based yellows and reds and earth reds, and find yellows such a chrome yellow(caution its posioness).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have used both cads mars based colors, I have to say the cads are great for the yellows and reds as they are very intense.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In short I think keeping it simple is the best way.
You could just use red, yellow, and blue, primary colors, and titanium white or a zinc-titanium mixture and ivory black.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If your more inclinded to the impressionist palette than you  can omit black, which is what Monet did, he mixed his blacks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My palette:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;white,lead,or titanium/zinc or both, cad yellow lt,cad yellow med, yellow ochre,raw sienna,venitian red, vermillion(or cad red),burnt sienna, cobolt blue, ultramarine blue, madder lake, ivory black.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I might also have some earth greens, and if I have the time I will mix a row of grays(12 steps) that are the same values as the colors on my palette.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I am painting landscape I will have a row of blues, violets, and greens all mixed up like the grays.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Anna,</p>

<p>I use the palette I stated above. I think you want a balance of warm colors(reds, yellows),and cool(blues, madder lake, cool red) If you want a more earth based palette you could use the Mars based yellows and reds and earth reds, and find yellows such a chrome yellow(caution its posioness).</p>

<p>I have used both cads mars based colors, I have to say the cads are great for the yellows and reds as they are very intense.</p>

<p>In short I think keeping it simple is the best way.
You could just use red, yellow, and blue, primary colors, and titanium white or a zinc-titanium mixture and ivory black.</p>

<p>If your more inclinded to the impressionist palette than you  can omit black, which is what Monet did, he mixed his blacks.</p>

<p>My palette:</p>

<p>white,lead,or titanium/zinc or both, cad yellow lt,cad yellow med, yellow ochre,raw sienna,venitian red, vermillion(or cad red),burnt sienna, cobolt blue, ultramarine blue, madder lake, ivory black.</p>

<p>I might also have some earth greens, and if I have the time I will mix a row of grays(12 steps) that are the same values as the colors on my palette.</p>

<p>If I am painting landscape I will have a row of blues, violets, and greens all mixed up like the grays.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anna,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good question. That&#039;s something I&#039;ll be talking about in more detail later, but here&#039;s a preview.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I use what I call a &quot;core palette&quot; strategy. I have five or six paints (plus white) that I use in most every painting. Those are low chroma, single-pigment paints—mostly earths. Some paintings I do just with that core palette.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also have a collection of higher-chroma paints. Stuff like vermilion, Prussian blue, Doak&#039;s marvelous Alger blue, cadmium yellow light, and so on. I don&#039;t know these paints like I do those in the core palette, because I don&#039;t use them all the time. When I&#039;m planning a painting, I consider whether I will need one, two, or three paints from the extended list. If so, I spend some time playing with them, trying out mixes to see if they will work in the context of what I am planning. Sometimes (not as often as I should) I will do a small loose poster study to see how the color mixes I&#039;m considering harmonize together and represent the subject.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you think this strategy might work for you, then my suggestion is to decide on a core palette that allows you to mix virtually all of the low chroma colors you will use. Get really familiar with how these paints mix together, because you&#039;ll rarely apply them unmixed. Then add one or two additional paints at a time, gradually, and use them as you need them for a particular painting.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna,</p>

<p>Good question. That’s something I’ll be talking about in more detail later, but here’s a preview.</p>

<p></p>

<p>I also have a collection of higher-chroma paints. Stuff like vermilion, Prussian blue, Doak’s marvelous Alger blue, cadmium yellow light, and so on. I don’t know these paints like I do those in the core palette, because I don’t use them all the time. When I’m planning a painting, I consider whether I will need one, two, or three paints from the extended list. If so, I spend some time playing with them, trying out mixes to see if they will work in the context of what I am planning. Sometimes (not as often as I should) I will do a small loose poster study to see how the color mixes I’m considering harmonize together and represent the subject.</p>

<p>If you think this strategy might work for you, then my suggestion is to decide on a core palette that allows you to mix virtually all of the low chroma colors you will use. Get really familiar with how these paints mix together, because you’ll rarely apply them unmixed. Then add one or two additional paints at a time, gradually, and use them as you need them for a particular painting.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anna Sellers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Sellers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am currently working with a limited palette to learn on.  What would be the best way to incorporate more colors?  One color at a time and learn how it works with what I have?  Move on to a warm/cool combination?  Although I am not ready for the kitchen sink approach, I would like to start moving forward.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently working with a limited palette to learn on.  What would be the best way to incorporate more colors?  One color at a time and learn how it works with what I have?  Move on to a warm/cool combination?  Although I am not ready for the kitchen sink approach, I would like to start moving forward.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Painterdog,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I absolutely agree on Collins. He&#039;s very, very good. I don&#039;t get the sense of stiltedness with Jacobs and his students that I get with pure atelier trained artists. Jacobs stresses gesture and vitality in life drawing, not endless practice to become a human photocopier.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as weird color names go, unfortunately that&#039;s how Holbein names their paints (that&#039;s where &quot;misty blue&quot; and &quot;coral red&quot; come from. They must have hired an interior decorator to come up with names for their paints ). Other manufacturers do the same, of course, but Holbein is the worst offender among the makers of artist-grade paint.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For an artist, a color&#039;s mixing characteristics are far more important than just how pretty it is right from the tube.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Painterdog,</p>

<p>I absolutely agree on Collins. He’s very, very good. I don’t get the sense of stiltedness with Jacobs and his students that I get with pure atelier trained artists. Jacobs stresses gesture and vitality in life drawing, not endless practice to become a human photocopier.</p>

<p>As far as weird color names go, unfortunately that’s how Holbein names their paints (that’s where “misty blue” and “coral red” come from. They must have hired an interior decorator to come up with names for their paints ). Other manufacturers do the same, of course, but Holbein is the worst offender among the makers of artist-grade paint.</p>

<p>For an artist, a color’s mixing characteristics are far more important than just how pretty it is right from the tube.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: painterdog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the drawing part of what the people who come out of the Florence Academy is amazing. Some of these people draw so well.
Jacob Collins , who I think is an amzaing artist, is the cream of this movement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My main problem with this is that they are producing so many people who paint and draw the same way. The real talented ones show through, but I keep seeing these labor intensive academic drawings of casts that look good but for the most part they are dead in a visual sense. It&#039;s an interesting balance, but I have to admire the tenacity of training like that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frank Mason was asked years ago to join the faculty at the Graduate School of Figurative Art, he turned them down because he does not beleive in the methodology of the French Academic tradition, which is what they base the program on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He ought to know as he studied with someone who came out of that, Frank Vincent Dumond, who if your interested in color theory should look up as he was out of the Bellows(Maratta) school of color theory.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I read that discription again of Tony Ryder&#039;s palette and I feel that sums it up, they think to much. You don&#039;t need misty blue to paint a painting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t even know about colors with names such as misty blue or coral red, I don&#039;t know about you but I don&#039;t trust any color that start with a noun.  Well I guess sap green is an exception and Bohemian green earth which I have used and is very nice.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;but the more I read his palette and I go an look up say Monet&#039;s palette and I see that there is a bit of the &#039;kid in the sweet shop&#039; thing going on here.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the drawing part of what the people who come out of the Florence Academy is amazing. Some of these people draw so well.
Jacob Collins , who I think is an amzaing artist, is the cream of this movement.</p>

<p>My main problem with this is that they are producing so many people who paint and draw the same way. The real talented ones show through, but I keep seeing these labor intensive academic drawings of casts that look good but for the most part they are dead in a visual sense. It’s an interesting balance, but I have to admire the tenacity of training like that.</p>

<p>Frank Mason was asked years ago to join the faculty at the Graduate School of Figurative Art, he turned them down because he does not beleive in the methodology of the French Academic tradition, which is what they base the program on.</p>

<p>He ought to know as he studied with someone who came out of that, Frank Vincent Dumond, who if your interested in color theory should look up as he was out of the Bellows(Maratta) school of color theory.</p>

<p>I read that discription again of Tony Ryder’s palette and I feel that sums it up, they think to much. You don’t need misty blue to paint a painting.</p>

<p>I don’t even know about colors with names such as misty blue or coral red, I don’t know about you but I don’t trust any color that start with a noun.  Well I guess sap green is an exception and Bohemian green earth which I have used and is very nice.</p>

<p>but the more I read his palette and I go an look up say Monet’s palette and I see that there is a bit of the ‘kid in the sweet shop’ thing going on here.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Painterdog,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think your approach is very reasonable. While I think there is a lot to learn from Jacobs and his students, I agree with you that the paint mixing scheme just isn&#039;t that well thought out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To his credit, when I took classes with Dennis Cheaney, he did not try to insist that I use that kind of massive palette. He&#039;s very flexible as a teacher. I&#039;m also grateful that, although the teaching method derives in part from the French academic tradition, there wasn&#039;t any obligatory cast drawing.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Painterdog,</p>

<p>I think your approach is very reasonable. While I think there is a lot to learn from Jacobs and his students, I agree with you that the paint mixing scheme just isn’t that well thought out.</p>

<p>To his credit, when I took classes with Dennis Cheaney, he did not try to insist that I use that kind of massive palette. He’s very flexible as a teacher. I’m also grateful that, although the teaching method derives in part from the French academic tradition, there wasn’t any obligatory cast drawing.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: painterdog</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, 47 colors.
I think that&#039;s over kill.
I am more into a value system, its about pitch not chroma.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have a palette of white,lead,or titanium or both, cad yellow lt, cad yellow med, yellow ochre, raw sienna, vermillion(or cad red),burnt sienna, cobolt blue, ultramarine blue, madder lake, Ivory black.
I might also have some earth greens, and if I have the time I will mix a row of grays that are the same values as the colors on my palette.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I am painting landscape I will have a row of blues, violets, and greens all mixed up like the grays.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So if I know that the middle pitch of the painting is orange value than I know that Ihave to mix up and down to go to the lights and to the shadow values.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;cadmium red scarlet, alizarin crimson, rose grey, cobalt violet, cobalt violet light, Winsor violet, ultramarine violet, king’s blue. paynes gray???&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why would you buy a tube of gray/blue paint?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All those color can be mixed, and not to take away from Ted Seth Jacobs and his students, but this kitchen sink idea is a bit wacky.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way they do sight messure as a method, that is they do this nice tight drawing and fill in the painting. Its drawing and fill.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I studied with Frank Mason who is also a classical painter(http://www.frankmason.org)
He does not do that and while I respect Jacobs, and Ryder, they can draw, there paintings are based on the 19 century French academy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frank was a lot more into the old masters and drawing was more about action and proportions and fluidity.
He was big on learning to draw with a brush.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He was aslo into the light effect.
The values of what is before you as it relates to the real object.
Not the same as do a tight drawing, and fill it in.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 47 colors.
I think that’s over kill.<br />
I am more into a value system, its about pitch not chroma.</p>

<p>I have a palette of white,lead,or titanium or both, cad yellow lt, cad yellow med, yellow ochre, raw sienna, vermillion(or cad red),burnt sienna, cobolt blue, ultramarine blue, madder lake, Ivory black.
I might also have some earth greens, and if I have the time I will mix a row of grays that are the same values as the colors on my palette.</p>

<p>If I am painting landscape I will have a row of blues, violets, and greens all mixed up like the grays.</p>

<p>So if I know that the middle pitch of the painting is orange value than I know that Ihave to mix up and down to go to the lights and to the shadow values.</p>

<p></p>

<p>Why would you buy a tube of gray/blue paint?</p>

<p>All those color can be mixed, and not to take away from Ted Seth Jacobs and his students, but this kitchen sink idea is a bit wacky.</p>

<p>By the way they do sight messure as a method, that is they do this nice tight drawing and fill in the painting. Its drawing and fill.</p>

<p>I studied with Frank Mason who is also a classical painter(http://www.frankmason.org)
He does not do that and while I respect Jacobs, and Ryder, they can draw, there paintings are based on the 19 century French academy.</p>

<p>Frank was a lot more into the old masters and drawing was more about action and proportions and fluidity.
He was big on learning to draw with a brush.</p>

<p>He was aslo into the light effect.
The values of what is before you as it relates to the real object.<br />
Not the same as do a tight drawing, and fill it in.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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