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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 15:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your quick response!  Keep up the great work. :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your quick response!  Keep up the great work. :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 13:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Johanna,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve always been a little dubious about vegetable oils as they don&#039;t dry and I get concerned that small amounts mixed in with paint might be problematic. Linseed oil (otherwise known as flax seed oil and available in health food stores) is non-toxic unless you happen to be allergic to it. It works fine for me. Best to store it so that it doesn&#039;t contact oxygen, or it will harden. One good way to do that is to keep adding marbles or small stones to the container as you use it up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Best wishes,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;David&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna,</p>

<p>I’ve always been a little dubious about vegetable oils as they don’t dry and I get concerned that small amounts mixed in with paint might be problematic. Linseed oil (otherwise known as flax seed oil and available in health food stores) is non-toxic unless you happen to be allergic to it. It works fine for me. Best to store it so that it doesn’t contact oxygen, or it will harden. One good way to do that is to keep adding marbles or small stones to the container as you use it up.</p>

<p>Best wishes,</p>

<p>David</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 06:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi David,
Thanks for sharing you expertise.  I&#039;m starting to oil paint, and am very sensitive to turpenoid which i use to clean my brushes.  I would like to not use that and get linseed oil.  I read somewhere on the internet that people are using vegetable oil as a cleanser.  Would you recommend that?  Or is linseed the best, and least toxic.  My most important concern ( and everybody else&#039;)  is being as safe and toxic free as possible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank you, and looking foward to hearing your response.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,
Thanks for sharing you expertise.  I’m starting to oil paint, and am very sensitive to turpenoid which i use to clean my brushes.  I would like to not use that and get linseed oil.  I read somewhere on the internet that people are using vegetable oil as a cleanser.  Would you recommend that?  Or is linseed the best, and least toxic.  My most important concern ( and everybody else’)  is being as safe and toxic free as possible.</p>

<p>Thank you, and looking foward to hearing your response.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Matoki,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I haven&#039;t used a wide range of their paint, but it seems generally similar to Doak&#039;s stuff. I imagine it would work OK.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matoki,</p>

<p>I haven’t used a wide range of their paint, but it seems generally similar to Doak’s stuff. I imagine it would work <span class="caps">OK.</span></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matoki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matoki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What about Blue Ridge oils? Would you say that they could be painted without solvents as well?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Blue Ridge oils? Would you say that they could be painted without solvents as well?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 03:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;K,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the info on your process. Hope it turns out well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K,</p>

<p>Thanks for the info on your process. Hope it turns out well.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am doing a simple washing -probably not the best:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2 jars:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Edwards flax oil and compared with Barleans unrefined flax oil:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Both jars i put my attempt to wash the oils further:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PErrier water&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;salt&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;sand from our local beach(rinsed with water in cheescloth)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A gave it a good shaking and it is now sitting on a hot plate.  I just don&#039;t want to deal with silica and dont know if and how to clean sand for this oil washing process.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On D&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am doing a simple washing –probably not the best:</p>

<p>2 jars:</p>

<p>Edwards flax oil and compared with Barleans unrefined flax oil:</p>

<p>Both jars i put my attempt to wash the oils further:</p>

<p>PErrier water</p>

<p>salt</p>

<p>sand from our local beach(rinsed with water in cheescloth)</p>

<p>A gave it a good shaking and it is now sitting on a hot plate.  I just don’t want to deal with silica and dont know if and how to clean sand for this oil washing process.</p>

<p>On D</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Update to Jedwards oil:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just spoke to someone else in customer serviece  and here is some clarification:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Convention flax is highly refined  as the process states in my early post above
with a mechanical method of filtration
the ORganic Flax is refined w/ org compliance 
the steaming does not exceed 120F&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;walnut oil is Expeller pressed w/o compromise quality refined by alkali&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They are distributors but, buy from the same suppliers for consisten product 
Their drums are nitrogen purged and re-purged whenever opened to protect from air.  and same with gallon jugs which are in opaque HDPE #2 plastic - heavy duty enough to stand on.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update to Jedwards oil:</p>

<p>Just spoke to someone else in customer serviece  and here is some clarification:</p>

<p>Convention flax is highly refined  as the process states in my early post above
with a mechanical method of filtration<br />
the ORganic Flax is refined w/ org compliance <br />
the steaming does not exceed 120F</p>

<p>walnut oil is Expeller pressed w/o compromise quality refined by alkali</p>

<p>They are distributors but, buy from the same suppliers for consisten product 
Their drums are nitrogen purged and re-purged whenever opened to protect from air.  and same with gallon jugs which are in opaque <span class="caps">HDPE </span>#2 plastic — heavy duty enough to stand on.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: k</title>
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		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As far as oils go for a putty ( i am just using oil and calcite without the rotten eggs)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have you checked out the Jedwards oils ?  There prices are so good - I have just bought a gallon flax and gallon walnut.   They are very responsive and good customer service .
$25 for a gallon of flax oil&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jedwards International, Inc. - Plant Oils:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.bulknaturaloilsstore.com/plantoils.aspx&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Their flax oil - that they often sell as pharmaceutical grade for encapsulation - is not unrefined though:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;refined first to remove particulate &amp; debris (i&#039;m not sure if this includes mucilage)
then bleached with the D-clay
then Deorderized by steaming&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;their process of refining seems harmless and close to what we artists would do at home.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the head space of gallon jugs are nitrogen purged&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;this sounds highly refined&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;just confirmed the pressing of the seeds is cold -for their organic and conventional&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, they have been around for half-century and one of the few on the east coast.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The walnut oil is alkali refined which they say is not caustic and just basically salt and state it is meant for food grade as is all their oils.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as oils go for a putty ( i am just using oil and calcite without the rotten eggs)</p>

<p>Have you checked out the Jedwards oils ?  There prices are so good — I have just bought a gallon flax and gallon walnut.   They are very responsive and good customer service .
$25 for a gallon of flax oil</p>

<p>Jedwards International, Inc. — Plant Oils:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bulknaturaloilsstore.com/plantoils.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.bulknaturaloilsstore.com/plantoils.aspx</a></p>

<p>Their flax oil — that they often sell as pharmaceutical grade for encapsulation — is not unrefined though:</p>

<p>refined first to remove particulate &amp; debris (i’m not sure if this includes mucilage)
then bleached with the D-clay<br />
then Deorderized by steaming</p>

<p>their process of refining seems harmless and close to what we artists would do at home.</p>

<p>the head space of gallon jugs are nitrogen purged</p>

<p>this sounds highly refined</p>

<p>just confirmed the pressing of the seeds is cold –for their organic and conventional</p>

<p>But, they have been around for half-century and one of the few on the east coast.</p>

<p>The walnut oil is alkali refined which they say is not caustic and just basically salt and state it is meant for food grade as is all their oils.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Rourke</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mish,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not a materials expert. That being said, I know of nothing in oil paint that can cause harm just by breathing (unless you have a specific allergy). It&#039;s still a &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; good idea to have adequate ventilation when you paint.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Using just oil paint when painting is just fine. Avoid big areas in which you paint with a lot of lean (low oil) pigments over fat (high oil) pigments. For example, don&#039;t paint a lot of raw umber over a lot of ivory black. Other than that, you should be just fine.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mish,</p>

<p>I’m not a materials expert. That being said, I know of nothing in oil paint that can cause harm just by breathing (unless you have a specific allergy). It’s still a <em>very</em> good idea to have adequate ventilation when you paint.</p>

<p>Using just oil paint when painting is just fine. Avoid big areas in which you paint with a lot of lean (low oil) pigments over fat (high oil) pigments. For example, don’t paint a lot of raw umber over a lot of ivory black. Other than that, you should be just fine.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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