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	<title>Comments on: What’s the difference between chroma and saturation?</title>
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		<title>By: cara</title>
		<link>http://rourkevisualart.com/wordpress/2008/02/22/the-difference-between-chroma-and-saturation/comment-page-1/#comment-12448</link>
		<dc:creator>cara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;clear as mud.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clear as mud.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://rourkevisualart.com/wordpress/2008/02/22/the-difference-between-chroma-and-saturation/comment-page-1/#comment-11154</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Roger,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From the standpoint of a practicing painter, the difference between saturation (color purity) and chroma (color intensity) is fairly academic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re certainly right that mixing paints almost always results in a color that is lower in chroma. For that reason, a three color palette has a limited gamut of available chroma.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger,</p>

<p>From the standpoint of a practicing painter, the difference between saturation (color purity) and chroma (color intensity) is fairly academic.</p>

<p>You’re certainly right that mixing paints almost always results in a color that is lower in chroma. For that reason, a three color palette has a limited gamut of available chroma.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
		<link>http://rourkevisualart.com/wordpress/2008/02/22/the-difference-between-chroma-and-saturation/comment-page-1/#comment-11151</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with the author in that chroma has been more useful to me for mixing paint.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I used to think you could buy your primary colors; red, blue, yellow, white, and black, and you could mix any color you wanted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But it wasn&#039;t until I came across a set of paints that actually listed the CHROMA of the color on the tube that I realized that the reason I couldn&#039;t get really vivid colors was because you couldn&#039;t mix a yellow with a chroma of 12 with a blue with a chroma of 8 to get a green with a chroma of 14.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whereas according to saturation you could mix white into it and you&#039;re not decreasing the saturation but you are decreasing the chroma.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Correct me if I&#039;m wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the author in that chroma has been more useful to me for mixing paint.</p>

<p>I used to think you could buy your primary colors; red, blue, yellow, white, and black, and you could mix any color you wanted.</p>

<p>But it wasn’t until I came across a set of paints that actually listed the <span class="caps">CHROMA </span>of the color on the tube that I realized that the reason I couldn’t get really vivid colors was because you couldn’t mix a yellow with a chroma of 12 with a blue with a chroma of 8 to get a green with a chroma of 14.</p>

<p>Whereas according to saturation you could mix white into it and you’re not decreasing the saturation but you are decreasing the chroma.</p>

<p>Correct me if I’m wrong.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://rourkevisualart.com/wordpress/2008/02/22/the-difference-between-chroma-and-saturation/comment-page-1/#comment-8763</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the correction, David. I&#039;ve updated this post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction, David. I’ve updated this post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Briggs</title>
		<link>http://rourkevisualart.com/wordpress/2008/02/22/the-difference-between-chroma-and-saturation/comment-page-1/#comment-8736</link>
		<dc:creator>David Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To clarify, David, my objection is that you seem to be judging saturation as if it was meant to be a measure of colour intensity. It isn&#039;t, it&#039;s a measure of colour purity. The term for intensity of colour of light is &quot;colorfulness&quot;, the product of the saturation of a light stimulus and its brightness.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Many colours reflect light of high saturation, but only those that reflect light of high colorfulness (high saturation AND BRIGHTNESS) have high chroma. RGB colours that emit maximum saturation red light range from very low chroma (nearly black) through moderate chroma (dark ruby reds) to very high chroma (bright red or R 255). The importance of this concept of saturation for painters comes from the fact that when a coloured surface turns from shade into light, the colours of the light reflected from it tend to follow a uniform saturation series such as this.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, David, my objection is that you seem to be judging saturation as if it was meant to be a measure of colour intensity. It isn’t, it’s a measure of colour purity. The term for intensity of colour of light is “colorfulness”, the product of the saturation of a light stimulus and its brightness.</p>

<p>Many colours reflect light of high saturation, but only those that reflect light of high colorfulness (high saturation <span class="caps">AND BRIGHTNESS</span>) have high chroma. <span class="caps">RGB </span>colours that emit maximum saturation red light range from very low chroma (nearly black) through moderate chroma (dark ruby reds) to very high chroma (bright red or R 255). The importance of this concept of saturation for painters comes from the fact that when a coloured surface turns from shade into light, the colours of the light reflected from it tend to follow a uniform saturation series such as this.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://rourkevisualart.com/wordpress/2008/02/22/the-difference-between-chroma-and-saturation/comment-page-1/#comment-8722</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;David,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think saturation in HSB is bad. I do think that, for the purpose of an artist mixing paint, the Munsell model, in which the scale from minimum to maximum chroma varies depending on hue and value, is much more useful. In HSB, I can set chroma to 100%. If I then set the value slider to zero (black), the chroma is still at 100%. But there is no chroma there; the 100% is an artifact of the HSB model, in which 100% reflects maximum chroma at whatever the current value is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In Munsell, at a value of zero, the only possible chroma is zero. That makes a heck of a lot more sense to me. It also better fits a subtractive color model, which is what we&#039;re dealing with when mixing paint. As hue and value change, the range of possible real-world chroma changes. HSB is perfectly appropriate for computer software and other technical purposes. The considerations involved in designing computer interfaces and calibrating monitors have nothing to do with painting pictures, however. So a different model, more attuned to the messy realities of actual human color vision, is better for that purpose.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>

<p>I don’t think saturation in <span class="caps">HSB </span>is bad. I do think that, for the purpose of an artist mixing paint, the Munsell model, in which the scale from minimum to maximum chroma varies depending on hue and value, is much more useful. In <span class="caps">HSB,</span> I can set chroma to 100%. If I then set the value slider to zero (black), the chroma is still at 100%. But there is no chroma there; the 100% is an artifact of the <span class="caps">HSB </span>model, in which 100% reflects maximum chroma at whatever the current value is.</p>

<p>In Munsell, at a value of zero, the only possible chroma is zero. That makes a heck of a lot more sense to me. It also better fits a subtractive color model, which is what we’re dealing with when mixing paint. As hue and value change, the range of possible real-world chroma changes. <span class="caps">HSB </span>is perfectly appropriate for computer software and other technical purposes. The considerations involved in designing computer interfaces and calibrating monitors have nothing to do with painting pictures, however. So a different model, more attuned to the messy realities of actual human color vision, is better for that purpose.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Katarzyna,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Replied in email.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katarzyna,</p>

<p>Replied in email.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Briggs</title>
		<link>http://rourkevisualart.com/wordpress/2008/02/22/the-difference-between-chroma-and-saturation/comment-page-1/#comment-8719</link>
		<dc:creator>David Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Saturation in HSB refers to the relative PURITY of colour of LIGHT, which in reality can vary from zero to its maximum for light of any brightness. It isn&#039;t really just some bad way of describing chroma (the STRENGTH of the local colour of a SURFACE), it&#039;s a distinctly different (and useful) concept. I&#039;ve tried to concisely summarize the distinctions here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.huevaluechroma.com/012.php&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saturation in <span class="caps">HSB </span>refers to the relative <span class="caps">PURITY </span>of colour of <span class="caps">LIGHT, </span>which in reality can vary from zero to its maximum for light of any brightness. It isn’t really just some bad way of describing chroma (the <span class="caps">STRENGTH </span>of the local colour of a <span class="caps">SURFACE</span>), it’s a distinctly different (and useful) concept. I’ve tried to concisely summarize the distinctions here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.huevaluechroma.com/012.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.huevaluechroma.com/012.php</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Katarzyna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katarzyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi David,
I&#039;m glad that you are back. To be honest I&#039;ve started to worry about you. My computer sends me stubborn messages that I cannot edit and send nothing to your site because of an error. I&#039;m confused and not sure what is the problem. Greetings.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,
I’m glad that you are back. To be honest I’ve started to worry about you. My computer sends me stubborn messages that I cannot edit and send nothing to your site because of an error. I’m confused and not sure what is the problem. Greetings.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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