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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello, great opinion on overworking a painting. The only problem I have with it is that the paint builds up too much and especially in important areas like an eyeball.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, great opinion on overworking a painting. The only problem I have with it is that the paint builds up too much and especially in important areas like an eyeball.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Rourke</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 00:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, Bart.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once again, I apologize that comments disappeared for awhile just after you posted this comment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have seen lots of underworked painting, although of course it depends on what the artist&#039;s goal is. It would generally be better if fewer painters worried about applying too many strokes to their paintings.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bart.</p>

<p>Once again, I apologize that comments disappeared for awhile just after you posted this comment.</p>

<p>I have seen lots of underworked painting, although of course it depends on what the artist’s goal is. It would generally be better if fewer painters worried about applying too many strokes to their paintings.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bart johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>bart johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;David,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s a key insight. I think the whole concept of overworking is  probably the single most damaging piece of bad advice given to young painters. It&#039;s a recipe for both laziness and self-infatuated delusion. As you point out, Sargent himself wasn&#039;t always able to pull off that kind of precision without scraping and repainting. What chance does a young painter have in bringing it off? None whatsoever. The art magazines are filled to the brim with clearly underworked and slapdash paintings all playing at the idea that they&#039;re being fresh and masterful, when all they are is superficial and imitative of a certain kind of fashionable style.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The real problem is that most painting is underworked. A painting that is so-called &quot;overworked&quot; can always be resuscitated through scraping and/or sanding down. And pushing a painting past the point of one&#039;s comfort zone is necessary, rather than trying to baby it and preserving things that one has done well. Real progress only comes from pushing the painting further--and learning from the struggle.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I applaud your honesty here on your website and have long enjoyed visiting it. I&#039;m very happy to see the clear progress that you keep making in your work.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>

<p>That’s a key insight. I think the whole concept of overworking is  probably the single most damaging piece of bad advice given to young painters. It’s a recipe for both laziness and self-infatuated delusion. As you point out, Sargent himself wasn’t always able to pull off that kind of precision without scraping and repainting. What chance does a young painter have in bringing it off? None whatsoever. The art magazines are filled to the brim with clearly underworked and slapdash paintings all playing at the idea that they’re being fresh and masterful, when all they are is superficial and imitative of a certain kind of fashionable style.</p>

<p>The real problem is that most painting is underworked. A painting that is so-called “overworked” can always be resuscitated through scraping and/or sanding down. And pushing a painting past the point of one’s comfort zone is necessary, rather than trying to baby it and preserving things that one has done well. Real progress only comes from pushing the painting further—and learning from the struggle.</p>

<p>I applaud your honesty here on your website and have long enjoyed visiting it. I’m very happy to see the clear progress that you keep making in your work.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Rourke</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daryl,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I do a agree that you need to watch out for overworking a painting, depending on the kind of effects you are looking for. Over-blending, for example, can dull down color (reduce chroma) lower than you want. My point here is that, for me, there is a greater danger of stopping too soon than stopping too late.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your mileage will vary, of course.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl,</p>

<p>I do a agree that you need to watch out for overworking a painting, depending on the kind of effects you are looking for. Over-blending, for example, can dull down color (reduce chroma) lower than you want. My point here is that, for me, there is a greater danger of stopping too soon than stopping too late.</p>

<p>Your mileage will vary, of course.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daryl Urig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daryl Urig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 06:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that you need to keep working on a painting until nothing sticks out to you. I have also overworked paintings and lost the freshness to the paint that I enjoy by overworking a painting. It is very hard to know when to stop.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that you need to keep working on a painting until nothing sticks out to you. I have also overworked paintings and lost the freshness to the paint that I enjoy by overworking a painting. It is very hard to know when to stop.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gregory Becker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amen&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen</p>]]></content:encoded>
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